Ursa Minor Permanent

Ursa Minor route with OFR gruppo from Magee Park

Freakin' cold out at 5:30 when I left the house to the start. Official temp was 43F, but in the Twin Oaks Valley
it was more like 38F! Had my knee warmers, arm warmers, long glove liners, full under shirt base layer and paper vest. Can't wait for the time change next week.

Stopped at the Solana Donuts just before 7 AM for a check out on what they have. This is the control before the turn north. I ended up with a seventy-five cent buttermilk with chocolate topping. No inside bathrooms. Sun was starting to come up on Coast Hwy. 101 northward. Temp was up to 50F. I was way early for the meet up at Magee Park in Carlsbad, so did some recon work on local roads for another new "University Loop" permanent I'm working on. Rode over to Magee before 8:00 and sat in the sun warming up. A few riders starting arriving, so we chatted about gearing for the PIE ride on the 21st. Left Magee park at 8:40 with a dozen riders.

Nice fast ride through the base as we stopped to check out a Swami's lady rider who had a flat. Of course she didn't carry any tube or such. Paul Nevin stayed back with her and helped her with the fix. We regrouped after the Las Pulgas gate. I saw a racer guy go past and followed him up to San Onofre State Park, bathroom #11. I removed my cool weather stuff and packed it away. The others arrived and hit the water and bathrooms. Nice ride up through San Clemente and on toward Dana Point. I cut off on the San Juan River Trail toward San Juan Capistrano. Detour. I followed the signs  around and soon caught up with the Trail. Nice tailwind! Stopped at McDonalds for water and ice creme cone for receipt.

I usually allow 50 minutes for the regroup near Dana Point. I was running late due to the detour. I only waited 10 minutes and Ben and Paul rode by. Only 2? I chased them down and rode with them to San Clememte. The pack was not far behind. Full regroup by Trestles Path. Bruce was in race mode back to #11. Andrea on her new Specialiazed S-Works and Tom joined in. I left before the group and enjoyed some peaceful cruising time at 15mph to Las Pulgas Gate. Several riders hopped rides back from there. Half of us went through the base: Kiwi Stuart, Steve Ring, new guy Eric, John, and one other. Nice fast pace as Steve did the pulling. We rolled down Harbor Drive and I cut over to the SLR Bike Path. OH oh. Another detour. I did the loop through Oceanside and picked up the Bike Path at Benet Street. Nice tailwind as I wasn't feeling it. I continued straight off the Bike Path onto Santa Fe to Vista and took Mission Road back to San Marcos instead. Still 129 mile for this route. Oh, well. Decent day. I didn't feel that chippy when I got home. Weird food day.

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Montezuma Mesa Express Permanent

Round about route for the Montezuma Mesa Express

At 206 km, this route will meet the monthly rando requirements for the R-12( one 200km route per month for a year). I don't believe I did a 200km permanent this month, so this might be it. I did modify the ride somewhat to accommodate stopping by and seeing Dan Phillips at Bussey Automotive in O'side around opening time of 8:00 AM. Also, the SLR Bike Path was closed at Benet Street, so that worked out good.

After chatting with Dan a bit, I rolled down the coast to Magee Park and chatted with the OFR gruppo waiting to start their ride southward at 8:30. Alan, new guy Eric, Stuart (Kiwi), crazy Doug and Phil Auchter were there too. I rode with them to Swami's, where we met up with 8 other riders. On the ride south, they turned right away at Manchester St and headed inland. Only Alan and I continued on and up Torrey Pines. We chatted about stuff and I tried to coax Alan to stand up sometimes while climbing. He did try that a few times. Never too old to learn. I left Alan at the top of the climb and continued on to SDSU up on the mesa. I took the round-about way via Morena Blvd to escape the Mission Bay traffic.

After the turn-around at MacD's on the mesa, I stopped on the way back at Nytro and chatted with Joe Morgan. We chatted about the bent SOMA frame and also a replacement for my bad FSA carbon cranks on the Fuji. FSA won't do crap without recent receipts ( I never got paper from the FSA replacement crankset 2 years back). Guess that is a dead end and wasted money. Those cranks aren't very good and pull out from the bond with the carbon arms. Joe said his buddy Daryl had a set of compact cranks and he forgot them at home. He would jot a reminder and bring them tomorrow (Friday). Note: I rode over on Friday and he forgot them again! What else is new? They might have to heat the SOMA frame due to the "springiness of the Tange Prestige HT steel. Is something better than nothing?

I took the back way home and forget to get a receipt at Oceanside. I think I only rode 117 miles or so. Oh, well... next time.

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Santa Ysabel Preserve + Volcan Mtn. Recon Ride

Santa Ysabel Preserve and Volcan Mtn Recon Route

Well here we go again. John had some free time today (Tuesday), so we decided to check out some possible future rando routes around Santa Ysabel, CA. The idea was to connect routes using the dirt Black Canyon Road northward from Ramona with dirt around Julian and points south to hook up with the Stagecoach 400 into San Diego. I had plotted this route our a few weeks back but never got up to test ride it.

All looked good on the satellite map, so we loaded up the trial bikes into John's little Honda Element on a foggy morning and headed over to Santa Ysabel. The fog cleared by Ramona and the rest of the drive-in was filled with ideas of a dirt route from Ramona to Santa Ysabel, using trails south of Hwy. 78. Nice try as private land dots the whole valley there.

Santa Ysabel Preserve East Trailhead

We were off around 8:30 AM to 60F temps at Don's Market. Sun was up and it felt real good as we rode the
shoulder on the short run up Hwy. 79 to the Santa Ysabel Preserve Trailhead. Passing through the gate, we checked the trail board and the brochure maps of the trail.

Instant climbing greeted us on a farmer road, dodging the cow patties from the open grazing through the preserve. The first real climb and we were walking up the rocky, slippery slope of 15% grade. This stuff was a little nasty, with ruts and loose sections dotted with those fist size rocks making traction difficult. Ditto for the next 17% climb as we headed into the trees. Now I know why we didn't see any bike tracks around here. In fact we didn't see much of any tracks at all. The first 1.5 miles was all in the 13-17% climbing range mixed with a few lesser sections.

John checks Garmin route at trail fork.

After about 30 minutes of this, we could look westward down to Santa Ysabel and saw the elevation gain already! No wonder we were sucking air! More of this hard stuff as we came to the first trail junction. Gamin said we were on track. We pulled the maps and tried to figure out were we were in relation to the points on the map. I also discovered my Garmin was off. Earlier, guess I started it and then stopped it in short order. The trail eased up a bit as we turned northward. As we climbed around a gentle curve, there was this newly painted metal bench, facing westward. John parked his bike and sat there enjoying the view. Of course, I got a good picture of this for the record. At this point we were up to 4200' , the same elevation as Julian!

A nice rolling downhill put us in some meadows for another trail turn. The route became more enjoyable then, as we were climbing at a more leisurely grade of 4-6%. Met our first hiker walking the dog. Stocky lady with hiking boots and her camera in hand. Great downhill ahead as John used stealth mode to sneak up on another lady hiker and scared the jee-bees out of her as she jumped when he passed. Must have had the iPod cranked up?

John checks the views west at misplaced bench.

A long steep downhill followed by a muddy cattle creek crossing. Someone placed a split log bridge in for
hikers and bikers. Thank you. Next up the trail got great as it followed Santa Ysabel Creek through the meadow and then into a large oak grove. Good riding on fallen leaves as we soon wound our way to the Farmer Road Trailhead. That last section was real rando nice! We refueled there and John did a photo study on a red ant nest. Soon we were off down Farmer road southbound with more climbing for 1.5 miles to the next recon ride up Volcan Mtn.

No one parked roadside for the jaunt up to Volcan Mtn. Looks like we'll have this trail all to ourselves today. A short rocky road ride to the gate, which was located next to someone's home and small vineyard. This great wooden sign introduced us to the Volcan Mtn. Preserve and just up the trail was a unique entry point of three tall metal artwork enhanced poles, through which we had to pass. Nearly a consistent double digit climb started on good hard-packed sandstone laced with a few rocky sections. Further up on the right was a "1.2 mile hiker only trail" built with a grant in 2003 by the California Conservation Corps. No bikes allowed on that nice single track! I somehow jammed by right achilles into my pedal and that sucker was starting to throb in 4/4 time.

Kelly rides through oak grove trail.

Several sections of light rocky climbing before the trail opened up to a meadow. Good views from here as
we continued climbing with the summit in sight. Good rando riding now as we were met by a gate to end our legal route to the top of Volcan Mtn. with just 200' of climbing left! Bummer. Both wings of the gate were off limits due to heavy brush enhanced by a strong looking barb-wire fence. We pondered our options a bit, before deciding to return downhill and leaving the summit for another day. Back down at the trailhead, John met a family friend who was starting her hike to the top on some kind of a treasure hunt. What are the odds of that?

We took Farmer Road southbound and were met with some more 9% climbs before arriving in Julian. Our break was at the familiar Cozen's Station, where I promptly iced down my now golf ball sized ankle swelling. We sat around in the sun as John adjusted his seat and commented on some patrons ripped jeans denoting a tanned near butt-crack!

Nearing the top of Vulcan Mtn.

Sandwiches finished off, we soon rolled through town and were chased by a strong tailwind through Wynola at speeds at 38mph! That's real quick on a big tired bike for me! Several stops along Hwy. 78 to check out new trails from Santa Ysabel for possible future recon rides soon put us back at Don's Market and the end to the recon morning.The trip back to San Marcos was highlighted by how lousy we climbed today. OH, well, we'll see what happens on the next trail ride.

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Rock & Road Trail Permanent

Needed a short dirt ride today on the Trail Bike. Changed tires over to the bald ones that came with the bike. Need to wear them down. Left San Marcos 7-Eleven at  7:00 and took the bike paths over to Citrus Street and on over to San Pasqual Valley. Fog had lifted and took out the paper vest at the Ysabel Creek Trailhead. Climbed up Raptor Ridge, trying to improve on my stand up style... Didn't have much as I had to sit down to get traction up the 15% section. Bummer. Touched foot down 2 times on the downhill over to Mule Hill Chevron. Nice break and refueled there at 8:30.

Make quick work of the switchbacks and Lusardi Loop. Getting warm over there so I opted for a different route and followed the power lines to the Black Mtn. Park. Made the Shell control in good order. Short stop and down to Los Penasquitos Canyon for a 30 minute trip across and up Roselle Street.

Rose Creek Bike Trail was nice as a racer young dude passed me with a squeaky chain. I got him good on the next climb and asked him "if that was my chain squeaking or his"? He said his as I left him in the dust and hit the Rose Canyon Bike Path. Rose Creek was nice and I followed the Bay cycle route on to Dog Beach 7-Eleven for a blow and some cookies. I iced up there and climbed the always tough Hill Street. Around SD Bay on the bike route and to the finish at Santa Fe Station. The new construction is almost finished around there and looks good. Arrived in good order well before 1:45 PM. Next train north was at 2:15. Cleaned up and hopped the Coaster northward, resting my sore left ankle and stretching out on the way. Got back to San Marcos at 4:13 PM.

Not a bad day and felt OK all day. Good weather and wasn't real not, only 90F on Lusardi Loop.

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Bike Path X Two Populaire

Stopped by and missed Dan at Bussey's Auto early AM

Rode the shortie permanent today, starting from San Marcos. Went by Bussey Auto to see Dan. Not there yet at 7:45 AM. Guy needs a day off too! Rode over to Magee Park to meet up with the boys. New guy Eric was there and crazy Doug. Alan was there and we discussed Dale's ATV accident in Idaho last week.

Rode down to Swami's, where the group expanded to 17 riders, including late arriving Andrea. She is getting another new Specialized carbon bike. A Tarmac to go with her Roubiax she now has! Andrea should join the bike a month club. Rode down to Del Mar, turned around and went back to Nytro to chat with Joe. No word on the SOMA frame yet. No compact crank or Lenzyne pump deal yet. Bummer.

Continued on with the ride over to Escondido and back to San Marcos. Felt real good on the single speed Madison bike. Knees are shot anyway, so why not implode them?

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Santa Ysabel Truck Trail Permanent

Garmin Stats from the Santa Ysabel Truck Trail route

Keith Olsen, Devin Mortensen, John Mestemacher and I met up near the Mule Hill Chevron before 7:00 AM on this Saturday in mid October. Overcast, which meant the temps were in the mid 50's. I did have on on my arm warmers and paper vest. Others were dressed likewise. We chatted around and checked out John's new Charge "Cooker" big tire bike. Nice steel ride. John had it out on a test ride already and said the verdict is still out due to his lack of dirt skills. Baloney, but sounds like some of my excuses!

We rolled out after 7:00 and hit Raptor Ridge. Devin was leading off at a race pace as Keith dropped off and we waited for him at the top. Finally, we chatted with a jogger going that way and informed him if he saw Keith, let him know we were moving on to beat the MTB Trail Race practice starting at 8:00. The San Pasqual Trail was in good shape. The recent rain had packed it down and lessened the dug up effects of horse use. Hwy. 78 Trailhead was packed with MTB'ers, waiting for the race to start. I picked up a few Hammer Gels and WD-40 dry lube samples. Also checked out some of those racing MTB rigs. Off we went up Hwy. 78 to the Santa Ysabel Truck Trail.

John's new Charge Cooker looks almost like this.

We survived the light highway traffic and were finally glad to turn off onto the trail. Nice quiet riding here. The first Orosco Truck Trail section was bladed for fire season, but we were soon making the turn eastward on the Santa Ysabel Lower Truck Trail. This trail skirts the canyons as we wind our way to Pamo Road. Nice single track riding along here. There are 2 gates you need to walk around. Also the big oak tree was still down blocking the trail. We soon turned onto the hard-surfaced Pamo Road, which comes northward from Ramona. After a mile, this road changes to a gravel road. With big tires, not a problem for us. Snack on the move time.

Upper Santa Ysabel Truck Trail. Different riding here. Regular truck trail was smoothed out a lot due to the rain on Wednesday. No dust and only one 4x4 on this road today. The first few miles are uphill at a 12% max grade. It looks more daunting from a distance than it really is. Next follows a few ups and downs, some rocky sections as we wind our way along the hillside toward Black Canyon Road, which we soon saw up above in the distance. Lead out Devin, spooked a deer and it ran in front of John and I. I commented if there were so many deer around, then there must be some big cats too! Almost an optical illusion as the USYTTr meets up above the bridge with this dirt road from Ramona. We stopped there, sucked some water and commented on how great we were feeling! HA-ha.

Downhill on washboard Black Canyon Road

It's a long slog up Black Canyon Road on the dirt road smoothed out by recent rains. Seems like it goes on forever as you wind your way up the canyon toward Mesa Grande. Some light washboard greeted us and near the top there were 3 roadies gingerly riding down, getting they're "nads" rocked up good! We stopped near the old Mesa Grande store for a brief repose and gel time. John said he thought about waiting for us here in the shade and rest up for our return trip. No way, as were motored on hard surface again. Devin was in full downhill race mode as we met Harley boys coming up the climb. No wonder, the Harley Hangout was packed full this Saturday noon. They must have noontime "two-fers" on beer. A short ride past the near drained Lake Henshaw put us at the steps of the store.

Turn around time at Lake Henshaw. The store was for some reason busy. A fisherman buying bait. For what I don't know. The lake was so low, any boat would bottom out! Water, Cola, Mountain Dew, ice cream, bring along sandwiches were on the menu now. I refused to pay $2 for a small Gatorade and returned it for a caffeine charge instead at half the price. We sat on the ledge in the shade and talked bikes, olive trees and other worldly things. We left around 12:45 and headed for Mesa Grande, this time the tough way... up the climb. We split up a little on the climb, Harley's buzzing around and it seemed to warm up some. Regroup at the top and some good riding along the mesa to the Black Canyon Road turn.

Downhill on the washboard road is quite a hoot! I set my front shock at 1/3 for the light bumps. Not near as rough as only a few weeks ago. Guess the rain dampened and leveled out the road some. We only met 3 or 4 cars on the way down to Ramona. Cars seemed to slow and they all waived. You can really get rolling at 20mph, but it takes an occasional corner cut to keep things moving. A definite no-no with approaching traffic. John led the climb up from the bridge and a good pace. Seems the cola was kickin' in by now. The group stopped at the corner AM/PM for a short respite and some drinks. I sucked down a ice cream sandwich while we were checking out all the traffic coming up from Escondido. John thought it might be Julian Apple Weekend with the lines of traffic.( I checked and Julian Apple Days were October 5-6!).

Fast downhill from Ramona on Highway 78

Quick flight down the hill on Hwy. 78 to San Pasqual Valley. Several groups of cars bunched up behind us at times so we slowed, moved over a bit and let them pass. I did a rear tire brake lock as Devin decided to slow quickly when I was just pulling in behind him. No wheel touch, but it was close. I called it a "controlled brake lock", but it was more like a panic swerve skid! Thankfully, we soon tuned onto Bandy Canyon Road.

The rando route was changed to do the full Bandy to Highland Valley Road route instead on back onto the full dirt trail again. This was to necessitate a least having a chance to come in under rando time limits. John took off ahead as Devin and I were chatting and commenting on the roadside trail that the racers had packed down real good. After the Highland downhill, we turned on the signed crossing back to the Mule Hill
Trail. Nice pace back to the Chevron station and a cool drink to finish out the ride. We never clock watched but  still finished up with 13 minutes to spare!  Another tough rando trail route, even though there were several sections of regular road riding.

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Stagecoach 200 Recon

Been putting this recon route off for a month now. Too hot, too windy or other things. You know how it is? It came down to a hellva long way to just get to the start plus it looked like rain for Wednesday and Thursday. Had to go to fulfill the near empty pic cache for a new route I was working on with the pseudo title of "Stagecoach 200". Just cut the real Stagecoach 400 route in half and connect the two sides of the loop. Easier said than done.

Left home early to buzz over to Escondido and catch the 5:45 bus to Ramona. I was on 3rd street and climbing toward Santa Ysabel at 6:30 AM. Sucking wind on Old Julian Hwy, couldn't get things dialed in right. Must be the heavy, big tire bike? Sun was coming up and warming the joints. Temp was 46F when I left with arm warmers, woolie cap and knee warmer to boot. Had the vest on too. Not much traffic going east when I turned onto Hwy. 78. Don's Market is always a welcome relief when I picked up 2 bananas and a small bottle of G'ade. With the 2 bottles on the bike, this had to last to Perkin's Market in Descanso.

Nice little climb up toward Julian. Real lite traffic as I made a few stops for photos. Pine Hill Road is supposed to be faster going southward, something I wouldn't notice for 30 minutes. Made a few mental notes on how easy the turns onto Eagle Peak and Boulder Creek Roads are to miss. The fire station signs are still at each turn. Just follow the those signs! At night, this area would be a real "get lost-er". Finally, I arrived at the Forest Service Station at Engineer Rd. No sign out front! I rode in to check out the outside water fountain. Several firefighters were chit-chatting. They said they were repairing the sign. Water fountain wasn't working, but offered bottled water. I thanked them as I remembered how many times I've stopped at that convenient fountain.

Boulder Creek Road dirt starts right away, not with the logical downhill, but more climbing. Road has been resurfaced with decomposed granite and is packed tight. Some places were quite smooth.

Santa Ysabel Truck Trail+Sutherland Dam recon

Early morning fog on Mule Hill Trail

Left the Mule Hill Chevron at 7:00 sharp. A little cool for arm warmers and paper vest under jersey. I was
packing 2 bottles, 3 bars, 1-sunflower butter/cheese + 1-turkey/cheese sandwiches and my usual back up gels, extra Fizz tabs and the normal medicine cabinet stuff. I did get a extra bottle of Gatorade a the Chevron start and put it in the side pocket of the bar bag. Strapped it on with a rubber band.

It was real cool, in the low 40's with fog covered fields. Several people were jogging along the trail. The climb up to Raptor Ridge was the same as always. Two hike-a-bike sections and I was sucking air again. Not enough traction with the WTB small knobbies stock tires. They've got to go for a under $30 alternative. Plus I don't have the out of saddle technique down yet. They did clear the bushes somewhat along the trail section along Bandy Canyon Road near the fence. Good news as the horses have chewed the trail up awful from the pristine ride it was in early spring. Chatted with a MTB'er unloading at the Hwy. 78 trailhead. New looking TREK. He said it was a 2011 model. I asked how those tires worked. He said they were the original ones! Huh? They looked near new with lots of lugs sticking out. Must not ride much. He had his name decal on the handlebars. Mmmm must be a pro! Didn't know where Lake Henshaw was either.

Real lite traffic on Hwy. 78 going east toward Ramona. Big portable road sign that said road construction on

Deer on trail

Saturday. Guess it was better to have cancelled the SYTTr. ride for tomorrow? Orosco Truck Trail was bladed again. Must be for fire season. Santa Ana's today with temps forecast into the 90's out here. Lower Santa Ysabel Trail was nice and pristine, as usual. I just happened to stop and listen to the quiet. Across the valley, I saw a deer had also stopped on the game trail, looking at me. Neither moved. Hard to see him, but I rolled out quietly after a bit. Big oak tree had fallen over the trail. No way around, so it was duck under and climb over time. Through the last gate and to the Pamo trailhead. Removed the arm warmers (for brush protection). A lady was getting into her car after a hike.

One car on Pamo road. I felt real slow at the turn onto Upper Santa Ysabel TTr. Reloaded a minute before the assault up the 2 mile climb. Quiet at the "Y" to Black Mtn. Road. TTrail was quite smooth from lots of jeep traffic. Deer ran right across in front of me in the treed area, dust flying. The downhill ahead seemed smoother than usual. Must be the road traffic here has filled in between the rocks. Sat down in the cool shade just before Black Canyon. Road. Wind was blowing leaves as I chugged some water and pondered how nice and quiet it was here!

Next up was Black Canyon to Mesa Grande. Road was the usual wash board special. Seemed to take 3

Lake Sutherland Dam at low level

hours to drag my butt up there. Don't like that climb too much. I never did figure out why. Lite to no traffic as I  made the turn,finally downhill  and over to Henshaw store. Wind was really blowing from the east there. It cooled me off some on the climb back up the Mesa. I seem to climb that OK on the trail bike with big tires. Downhill was a terror on Black Canyon Road again. Super washboard and dusty. Almost nailed a car as I was trying to follow a smoother line around a corner! Good thing for my wet blow rag over my mouth/nose to defer the dust. Lots of fun with a suspension fork to smooth out the washboard and big tires to grab the corners. What a hoot!

At the bridge, I decided not to go straight to Ramona on dirt, where Keith had crashed on the washboard a while back, but to take the Sutherland Dam road instead. I don't remember being there before. 1.5 mile climb up on a washborrd dirt road. Some grades around 10%. Several side roads and in the distance there are some nice looking trails that go way up! The Dam was much larger than I thought. It 2x as wide as the Lake Hodges Dam and looks to be designed about the same. Water level was way, way down. Lake was closed to boaters and everyone else. The road starts climbing and follows the lake around and up over the ridge. I was confronted by a double flock of wild turkeys, who straddled the road. I crept along, trying not to rouse them, but to no avail. They all flew away when I was within 10'. Seems to me that the Sutherland Dam sits in a bowl, with it's main watershed from the mountains to the east. From the water, anyway  you go, it will be up. The route south from the dam is several more miles of climbing. Then a real fast 35mph downhill to Hwy. 78. I took the highway to Ramona. It was all downhill and 30mph fast with the big Santa Ana tailwind.

I stopped at the AM/PM instead of the control Circle K. Nicer there. Ice cream sandwich and a bottle of Vitamin Water. It seem to work OK since Andi Ramer put me on that stuff. I sat around back in the shade and ate my turkey sandwich I brought from home. Didn't seem too hot there, but a bit breezy. Short break and I was off down the hill. Garmin direct temp was at 100.4F now. Didn't seem that warm.

Big tailwind down Hwy. 78 and very light traffic going around me. I stopped at the trailhead potty and decided

Wild turkeys block the road near the dam

to make a real day of it and follow the full trail back. Signs were posted saying on October 12th a big race along the full trail from 6 AM to noon. Trail didn't seem too dug up as I experimented with the fork compression rebound knob. Never did figure out what that thing really does. Met 2 women on horses. I pulled over against the fence and kept quiet. The lead horse was really spooked, so the back horse led around and seemed to calm it down. No other bikes on the trail today. Nailed the couple of 15% grades up Raptor Ridge and tippy-toed down the other side without crashing. Met a TREK rider stopped near the trail finish and chatted with him. He was built like Dan Fitzgerald but a bit heavier. Said he had a heart attack a while back and was back riding again. I gave him a Rando card and said just pop a "nitro" and keep riding. "Oh, ya, I always carry some in my camelbak with my other meds"!

Rode back to San Marcos and got home around 4:30. Interesting ride today with the buggered right knee (from the sidewalk on last Saturdays Ham-Hock Trail), several deer and turkey trot, oak tree block of the trail, dam recon and windy/warm temps.Weekdays are great on the trails.

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